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by Michael Munger Will Apple Bounce Back? I always found investors to be a funny species to watch in action. One day, they will believe that a dot com business that promises golden piles of profits in 10 years is a killer bargain. A few days after, anything 'dot com' is good for nothing and the marvelous promises of future gold mines do not mean anything anymore. It is pretty much the same thing for Apple now. Apple reported sustained profits for 11 quarters and a sales slowdown coupled with other circumstances were enough for a huge drop in stock value. One day, you are a darling. The next day... whatever. I am not an investor. I do not want to be one. (Wait, I just lied. I invest in an RRSP. Does that count?) Imagine the pain I would go through. Each and every day, having to pontificate internally about what is hot and what is not; changing my mind instantly because of money. Isn't money a corrupting religion? That would make me very unhappy. I find this situation sad, but funny at the same time. Sad because strong performance and the upcoming Mac OS X suddenly gave way to big problems at Wall Street. Funny because investors - whether they had to protect their fund performances or their own pants - did their usual thing when dumping AAPL all on the same day. In any case, will Apple bounce back? Of course. Apple always bounces back. In fact, Apple's business game is a little... seismic. Have you ever seen a seismograph in action? When it detects the presence of an earthquake and records its magnitude, it writes up and down, and up and down... In plain English, the best way to describe Apple in a line is to say that it alternates between 'open mouth, insert foot' and 'let's kick ass with insanely great products.' Now, about Apple's next comeback... If we believe Steve Jobs, as reported on ZDNet, it will happen next year. According to Mr. Jobs, the remainder of 2000 will remind us of tougher times, but 2001 will witness Apple shining again. Jobs said that Cube sales, changes in sales force and the megahertz problem affected Apple only recently. Cheaper Cubes, faster processors and other changes will help Apple get back on track, according to him. I believe that faster speeds, a completely new product, and more efforts to convert PC users would not hurt. What new product? Well, colleague Samuel Sharp at MacSoldiers has been talking about a sub-notebook for ages and I would like to see such an idea making it to the shelves. I will discuss such things in details later, but I just feel like hinting for the moment. These factors would not change the world, but they would not hurt. In any case, people should not wonder for long if Apple's successes and debacles are spectacular or not. Most of the time, what happens is not as spectacular as some describe it. Highs and lows are part of the financial world and because it became part of it, Apple is bound to feel the effects of market hopes and fears regularly. We may feel the temptation to say that stock debacles or super invincibility streaks are historical each time they happen. Such feelings would take us far away from objectivity since the same incidents repeat themselves at times. What Apple users and investors have to do is to sit back and avoid this market frenzy and ask themselves if there is anything unusual about it and realize that no, it is business as usual. Most of the time, they should find that no, there is nothing abnormal about all of this. We should go beyond the idea that the last snowstorm was the coldest and meanest one in history and that the next will be even worse. We just have to go with the flow and learn to swim despite the waves, although overwhelming they may seem. There are always reasons behind problems and no matter how important they are, putting things back into perspective is a vital exercise. I think that Apple officers know this well and that they are already working on the next big thing. Mitch Mandich left and new blood is joining the company. Apple also has a clear idea of what could have caused problems and that helps when it comes to finding solutions. They will fight back and this is not the first time that they have done so. I find this whole situation funny. Because of lower profit estimates, Apple takes a beating in the financial world. If I may, I will suggest one thing to investors. They should do like the old movies. They should know how to use silences in their favor. Compare old black and white movies to today's movies. In an old movie, you can have a minute of silence that includes images that catch your attention and have a meaning beyond any sound. Today, it seems that special effects count more than the meaning of the movie. Do you get the parallel? If the stock market was just a bit... calmer. Hey, it is all dreaming here, not an investor's reality. I guess that we have to deal with it since we are not the ones in charge at Wall Street. Apple will bounce back, or my name is Snoopy. Despite what I said about investors... if I had a few thousand bucks to waste now, I would buy some AAPL and hold for the next 18 months because it seems like the perfect time to bet! Apple knows how to raise hell in the computer industry... Oh, one more thing. Isn't it odd to note that Apple finds itself in trouble just a bit after Steve Jobs' official acceptance (in January 2000) of the CEO position? Maybe he should go back to interim status :-) Your comments are welcomed. Michael Munger is a French Canadian living in Montreal. He discovered the Mac in 1994 while studying journalism, the profession he loves and practices. He also studied history and communications. In addition to his work at The Mac Observer, he authors the iBasics tutorial column at Low End Mac, and cofounded MacSoldiers in 1998. You can find more about him at his personal Web site. You are welcome to send me your comments or you can post them below. Most Recents Columns From On The Flip Side
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I feel cautious about using this. However you look at it, what you're actually doing is sending a forged email. Is this what you want to do? Does this improve the general welfare in any way?
Secondly, it's not a very good forgery. In my own case, at least, expanding the headers reveals a X-Envelope-From header that shows the bounce as coming from me, not from the supposed 'postoffice.<your domain>'.
Is it effective against spam? Does anyone know of a spammer who bothers to refine his email list by removing bounced addresses? Spam is better dealt with by reporting it to someone you trust in the delivery chain.
Yes, it might fool an old girlfriend you're trying to shake off, but c'mon...
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>Yes, it might fool an old girlfriend you're trying to shake off, but c'mon...<
Yeah, there should be a better way to communicate your feelings...
I do not think that the majority of spammers operate in this way. For the most part, spam is sent from throwaway accounts or sent with forged headers so that it apears to come from someone other than the spammer.
Thus, the bounces are more than likely just going to some innocent or non-existant address.
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I try to report all spam to spamcop.net which analyses spam and reports to the appropriate people abuses of their systems.
Not as easy as a 'bounce' button, but maybe a bit more useful. (Acutally, with Eudora I have a 'spamcop' button that is pretty conventient.)
I'd like to see this if I could. Is it an applescript or plugin, and where would I be able to find it? ^_~
I have never had a successful bounce; every single one has come back to me as 'not a valid sender address,' so I don't bother trying anymore.
I had an account that was getting hundreds of spams a week. It was a long-forgotten address that was listed on a site I designed. It was basically useless so I could experiment.
I bounced 700 messages the first time and have been checking back about once per week. Each week the number goes down. I now have it down to about 80 per week. I get a bunch of undeliverables.... but I also get standard replies too... which I also bounce.
I think this is a useful tool. I also think some spammers do try to get rid of bad addresses in some automated fashion. Even though the addresses they use appear to be dead...I also think they too have tricks to make you think that. I also suspect that bouncing unwanted mail to 'legitimate' spammers like 'classmates.com' or 'ebay.com' will save your address from being distributed later...when they sell their list. Not 'if', 'when'. Nip it in the bud, I say.
One sure way of getting your address enshrined as valid is to use the 'unsubscribe' link that comes in most (and works in some) spams... you are merely validating your address. Or maybe you trust them....If so, I have a deed to the Brooklyn Bridge I want to sell you.
If you didn't ask for the email you have every right to fight back in a technological sense. Spam is a sleazy and unethical practice...
If I can write 'return to sender' on snail mail... I have a right to do this. IT IS NOT FORGERY for crying out loud. Give me a break. It is not unethical or dishonest to bounce a message. You are saying that your address is not a valid recipient for their junk. That is honest. Even though they put my name it, I must assume they meant it for someone who cared. They have the wrong person.
I used to forward my junk to spamcop and frankly that doesn't get you anywhere in practical terms of ridding yourself of spam. It may help the greater good in the long run, but that is debatable.
Bounce away. It's free. It's fair.
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On reflection, you're right. This isn't a forgery, because as far as I can make out nothing is faked in the headers. (Actually this is what makes it ineffective if you bounce in the direction of anyone with a clue).
What it is though is a downright lie. You're not just saying 'Return to Sender' as in the snailmail case you mention. You're explicitly saying that the address is an unknown or illegal alias. Neither of these statements is true. You're also saying that the action of delivering the mail failed, which again isn't true.
So it comes down to the simple question: do you want to make a habit of sending out emails that don't tell the truth? If you don't mind using email this way yourself, I'm puzzled why you should object to people telling you that if you send them $9.95 they will turn it into a steady income of $2,000 a week, confer on you a degree from a leading university and lengthen your penis.
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ok, this is indeed not 100% or even 50% effective tool, but so is Spamcom.net. Noone guarantees you that you won't recieve spam anymore from the source you have reported about via Spamcop.
This tool gives me ability, gives me a chance to stop occasional spammer. And that's _good_ thing. That 'Bounce to sender' thing was one of the reasons why I switched from Magellan to Mail.app.
C'mon people, leave that heavy moralism and hard ethics for philosophy professors. If someone sends me spam then my mailbox does indeed not exist for them. Period.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
That's not Bill Gates behind that alias, is it, beastie? Pre-Enron that flag might have rallied a few duh-brains. These days pretty well everybody is beginning to understand that 'truth in business' is crucial to our future.
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Never mind all the minor ethical problems here (we could argue all night what 'legal address' and 'undeliverable' means). If you have someone savvy enough to spot this fake (and that probably means most of the people who would bother to weed their lists regularly), then bouncing like this is going to be just as bad as replying to a removal address.
You'd be as well yelling 'Nobody in here but us chickens!' ; )
I doubt very much that a bounce would signal to a spammer that the address is valid. Spammers send out millions of e-mails at a time, and a large proportion, if not most, of the addresses on their lists will be (genuinely) invalid.
A lot of those genuinely invalid addresses will generate a bounce back to the spammer (or their faked reply address), so how exactly is the spammer supposed to tell which bounces come from people hitting the bounce button, and which bounces come from the servers rejecting an invalid address?
They can't.
However, most spammers don't care about bounces, they rarely get them (due to faked reply addresses), they don't do anything with them, and they don't remove the address from their list. They already send out a tonne of spam knowing that some or most will go to nowhere (invalid addresses), so why would they care about trimming down that list slightly?
I keep the bounce option solely for human senders, it sometimes gets them to stop mailing.
as a test i tried to send a message for myself, and then bounce it..
as a result, my email is not valid? or so says the bounce thing. nice.
do i interpret that on the way that i spam (myself) ?
It seems to me that this bounce feature is a manual, one-time thing. I actually have an ex-girlfriend who won't stop sending e-mails even though I bounce them back. Does anyone know of a way to block her address? Or, automatically bounce any messages from her back?
Do not do this! You're only making the problem worse! Look, spammers often FORGE the From address. So, some poor guy who is getting lots of spam just like you now has to read a 'bounce' message from you in response to an email he DID NOT SEND.Bounce Back (matthewchrobak) Mac Os Download
I get a lot of 'bounces' in response to emails I did not send from stupid spam-filtering server software. Let's not manually add to that.
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Read more:
- http://spamlinks.net/prevent-secure-backscatter-fake.htm#harmful (You're almost always only hurting another innocent person whose address was forged - you're part of the problem, not the solution)
- http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=344239&rl=1 (in the Stupid Server Mistakes section)
- http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/329.html (bouncing this was makes YOU look like a spammer to spam-filtering software - not a good move)
- http://www.georgedillon.com/web/spam_fighting.shtml#freeware (you're just making someone else suffer and wasting your own time and theirs)
- http://www.georgedillon.com/web/2_bounce_or_not_2_bounce.shtml (it is different from a real bounce, so in the unlikely event that a spammer {instead of someone innocent having their time wasted} is listening, you're only confirming that your address is real and someone actually took time to respond to the spam)
- http://www.smartcomputing.com/editorial/article.asp?article=articles/2006/s1709/36s09/36s09.asp&guid= (paragraph about 'forged' and motivations of spammers - they do not read bounces - the innocent people whose address they forged do)
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_job (Joe-Job: you could become an unwitting accomplice in some spammer's attempt to hurt the forged person's email servers or business)
- http://www.g4tv.com/techtvvault/features/41474/Beware_the_Joe_Job.html?detectflash=false& (more about job-jobs)
- http://www.spamdailynews.com/publish/Spam_bounce_messages_compromising_networks.asp (you are adding to the spam problem)
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